Zimbabwe Vs Australia 3rd One day international 2022

zimfan1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:46 am

West Indies are coming in the new year.

Houghton mentioned a Pakistan "A" team may be touring for a few games before the T20 World Cup.

Thanks for the info mate!

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:52 am

Yeah as per the FTP we have;

December: Afghanistan - 1 Test (unlikely), 3 ODIs, 3 T20Is

Jan 2023: Ireland - 3 ODIs, 3 T20Is

Feb 2023: Windies - 2 Tests

all at home.

Pakistan were supposed to come for an 'A' Series last January but 'delayed' due to omicron. Sounds like they are still coming, which is good.

Wow! That's good. Desperately want that test match to go ahead!!! Please ZC.

Googly wrote: ↑Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:58 am

And s**t shot from Burl. Just needed to see that over off.

Needs to bat up the order. If we say it often enuf maybe they will give him a shot at 3 or 4

I think he’s thinking he’s a leg spinner now.

Probably shadow bowling in his hotel room as we speak.

Glad I stayed up late to watch the end of the game. When we lost our fifth wicket I figured it was likely over, but credit to Chakabva for seeing us home - Chakabva really does step up in foreign conditions, I remember him doing well in NZ also. Amazing to think we beat a full-strength Australia with Raza and Williams contributing nothing with the bat, and missing Ervine and Muzarabani. A most bizarre game. This certainly ranks up there will the all time great achievements:

1983: beating Australia at the CWC - perhaps this remains our greatest ever win due that we came from absolutely nowhere to stun the world.

1995: First ever test win, against Pakistan no less.

1996/97: The entire England tour of Zimbabwe.

1998: Winning Test Series in Pakistan 1-0.

1999: Beating India and South Africa at the CWC.

2001: Winning ODI Series in NZ 2-1.

2013: Test victory against Pakistan.

2017: Winning ODI Series in Sri Lanka 3-2

2022: Away ODI victory against Australia.

I’m going to go extreme negative Nelly here and post what will be a very unpopular opinion.

This victory was not all that good.

Good, but not amazing like is being said.

A few observations:

Home ground advantage:

‘First time we have beaten Australia at home’.

This is technically correct, but they played in Townsville. I’m the Tropics. They have never played there before either and these are foreign conditions for them considering 95+% of the population live below the tropics line.

Harare would feel more at home to these players than Townsville.

Burl brilliance:

Not saying he bowled badly but this haul was a complete fluke. This one I’m certain of.

Two wild stupid swings, a dolly from the worst full toss you’ll see, and two tail Enders is more luck than brilliant bowling.

Total:

We won off the back of such a low target being posted.

We were 7/141.

If we batted first, or if we were batting out the innings for soem reason, we would not have ousted a total larger than 170, absolute max. Is that really well played?

We won this on the back of Regis’ cool head. So again, leaving it up to one player.

Also, when Australia capitulates THAT quickly you know that it is a statistical anomaly of some sort. Yes, Zimbabwe bowled well, but this is more of a case of Australia not taking it serious and showing up and playing stupid then being dominated by us.

Honestly, the best work was from the quicks.

So yes, whilst it was good. The truth is a little bit more bland.

Flame away.

I agree that is was a fluky 5 wickets haul but Burl won't be complaining!

:cry: :cry: :cry: There's a time and a place mate :cry: :cry: :cry:

TapsC2 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 10:07 am

That Regis knock might be one of his most important. Played a key role. I also feel like Munyonga's 17 was also very very important in the context of the game. Got us just close enough. If they had got him for a duck I'm convinced we would have lost. The 30 minutes he was there killed their momentum.

To be honest it was just our day yesterday. A lot of things went our way. Regis was dropped by Finch too if I remember correctly

Regis played best in our team I think.

Dogg, many of those points are fair in terms of qualifying the win.

We could have had a greater first win against Australia in Australia.

But it still stands.

How many of our losses involve us hitting full tosses to fielders or equivalent? And we say, 'we suck'. We deserve to lose when we do that. Yesterday Australia deserved to lose to Zimbabwe and that is significant.

A couple of Burl's wickets were classic get out shots to a leggie. The caught and bowled along with Warner. How many times do our batsmen get out like that? All the time.

Australia could have played better and won. But they didn't and Zimbabwe won. And since that almost never happens it is big.

But you're right, it could've been a better first win in Australia.

Well I definitely would have respected a 6/270 Aus getting beaten by a 5/273 type score.

My statistical mind screams outlier of the factors I named in the post everyone’s quoting.

I don’t think Zim were more at home. I think that both teams felt they were touring the West Indies.

Is it really home ground advantage if you’ve never played there before?

Climate wise, the difference between North QLD and Melbourne is huge.

Was that Townsville pitch that much trickier to bat first on?

The results would indicate so, but it wasn't as noticeably different as the HSC deck between first and second dig.

There is a gap in skills between the sides, but you just need a few mistakes from the opposition batters and you're in the game.

The bowling especially levels the playing field- doesn't matter who's bowling it, if it's on a good length and nipping around you're going to take wickets. If the ball is only 130 plus and seaming 2 inches Tendulkar is struggling if it's on a good length.

The one thing that is a game changer for me is the sidearm.

A good guy on the dog stick can give you all the nastiness you need as a batsman. I'll bet ZC don't even give the staff new balls 😂 and the batters don't have enough bats to get them f***ed up against the new ball in the nets 😂

There's such a gap in the market for an aluminium or some type of plastic bat that saves your 400-800 dollar bats.

Burl's fifer was actually astonishing. Took 18 deliveries, second fastest ever, but for sure some innocuous deliveries did damage. We and he, will take it all day.

Evans currently is one of those guys that doesn't take wickets, but bowls well enough to, currently a bit unlucky, but if he just keeps plugging away they'll come. He's got such a nice repeatable action that he could become the backbone of our seam attack. A Third World McGrath.

That was perhaps Reggie's best innings. He'll remember that above any other, hopefully there's a couple more in the tank.

The guy that benefitted the most from that experience was probably Marumani. This guy has ability in abundance, but the brain of an ant, if he can learn to keep the scorpions at bay he solves a batting slot problem for us. He believes he can do it, and that's 90% of the battle. You actually probably need a few guys that lack a bit of imagination. 😂

That HSC deck is a problem. You can't have a pitch where the game is decided on the toss. They need to re-lay at least 3 decks with clay from 3 different sources and see how they go because its ridiculous. Or of course we pray we win the toss and have a fighting chance 😂

The brain of an ant is actually a compliment. Ants are Hella smart actually.

Did you that ants can actually keep track of their steps and direction without the use of a fitbit or Apple watch? This is because ants are very susceptible to destination if they are out of their nest for too long.

If you took our smartphones and Google away, all of us would die within 72 hours I'd stranded in the Outback but ants and other animals have survived for eons.