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This is the squad list being shared on a whatsapp group tonight:

Craig Ervine (C), Regis Chakabva (Vc, Wk), Tadiwanashe Marumani, Wessly Nyasha Madhevere, Tendai Lary Chatara, Blessing Muzarabani, Richard Ngarava, Bradley Evans, Luke Mafuwa Jongwe, Tony Tanaka Munyonga, Sean Colin Williams, Innocent Kaia, Sikandar Raza Butt, Ryan Ponsonbury Burl, Clive Madande (Wk)

Official announcement tomorrow - let's see if correct.

TapsC2 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:10 pm

The only reason why I would see them not picking him yet is because they will open with Craig and Regis plus if we look at all the games Marumani played he was fine until he played a big shot. It was always a wide swing or he lost his shape like has been mentioned on a previous thread. T20s he will have to attack immediately so maybe they think he isn't ready for the big stage compared to a milton who we saw finish a game.

Tough call especially for Munyonga but I'm assuming Munyonga is Burl's backup. Maybe in this next domestic season Tadi should try bat at 7


True. Marumani I noticed in and did not maintain shape. These aus bowlers hardly move the ball he could have had a much more productive series. Does not seem to know how to get off strike or play a big shot...has a lot of power but does not look at ball while swinging...he may come off at times..

Also chatara is not a threat.afg ban seem to handle him pretty well. He is definitely,or was better than bowlers of the past but not nyauchi. Open with nyauchi and bowl blessing or ngarava eva ns in the middle. Keep it tight..
I would ask marumani and actually a lot of zim batters to tap the bat down or swing it downward a little just before the ball is released to maintain shape. . Kinda like bairstow, rajapaksa, pant, stoinis etc..or even our own bt classic example...a lot of these youngsters seem to point it up like Kohli,kl,rohit etc which prevents them from timing and shape....
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Googly wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:42 pm

Marumani gets thrown in the deep end against Australia and does well .

Gets excluded from a number of games, which in hindsight he should have been picked for, and now not in the squad?

My 10c worth is someone in pointy shoes interfered with the selection process. He's p**sed someone off or there's a favorite and Marumani is the one who gets the chop to make way.

Larry queried it then after a phone call he followed up with "makes sense really," which means it doesn't make sense. 😂

Feeble.


I agree, 100%. It's so obvious, that he has fallen out with someone or his family has an issue with a selector or some petty third world shite like that.

Thrown in against Australia, looks decent for his age. Comes back and absolutely dominates the T10, but then isn't even in the squad? Tragic selection.

I've watched this kid since he was 12 and without doubt he has the highest ceiling in T20 format of any of our young or youngish players, by far. It's criminal that they are not investing in him like they are investing in Wes and Shumba.
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I suppose they are happy with Ervine and Wes opening and nudging it around for ones and twos.

Our selectors probably think a powerplay of 30-0 is sensational.
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5 of our 15 players have been injured and haven't played a cricket match since.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:19 pm

I suppose they are happy with Ervine and Wes opening and nudging it around for ones and twos.

Our selectors probably think a powerplay of 30-0 is sensational.


Did you watch marumani in aus series.for the amount of swinging he did could have gotten a lot more. In t20 you gave to hit with certainty and without getting out at least for 30runs..on e for the future perhaps
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sscricket wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:22 pm


secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:19 pm

I suppose they are happy with Ervine and Wes opening and nudging it around for ones and twos.

Our selectors probably think a powerplay of 30-0 is sensational.


Did you watch marumani in aus series.for the amount of swinging he did could have gotten a lot more. In t20 you gave to hit with certainty and without getting out at least for 30runs..on e for the future perhaps


You're probably one of the selectors with that logic.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:19 am

I didn't watch the AUS series, but did notice that Marumani (and Madhevere) both got some runs against one of the best bowling attacks on their own turf. But if what you said is true about Marumani, then he's got a lot of work to do because "shape and form" ie technique is the real skill of batting because that determines repeatability of strokes, and consistency of run making. To reiterate, Ngarava scored back to back 30s recently with little "shape or form", but its precisely that lack of technique which ensures that he won't hit 30 consistently.


I watched all 3 games. They could have got more than they did. Marumani especially, got himself out by trying to go big when he didn't really need to. Especially in the first ODI. He was so close to a 50, but he just swung wildly when he could have knocked the ball around. All the big hitters, it comes down to their form and technique. Not just them swinging wildly. Marumani improves on this, he instantly becomes ten times better.


secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:46 am

Sure, I get the point about domestic cricket and not reading too much into it. Although 290 runs from 5 T10 matches at an average of about 60-ish and a strike rate of 225+ is miles ahead of anyone else. Also last last season I think he scored 4 50's in 5 matches in the franchise T20.

And we do have decent coaches now for once. I think it's okay to be excited about this young man.


I get it. I'm not doubting his talent. He has loads and is a good player. I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the side or thereabouts, and nice to be excited about him. I'm just having some perspective. He showed weakness against Aus, and if we want him to play international cricket, then he needs to iron those things out. All well and good to knock the guys from Chitungwiza around the park, but the International game is where you are fully judged. Don't want him ending up with Hammy like stats of 200 ODIS and only 5 centuries or 66 T20's and only 11 50s.

Kid has the talent to better those stats and earn himself some serious recognition.
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Here you learn on the big stage, not in our domestic comps, they're just hamstringing this poor guy. His ability is clear for all to see.

Pointy shoe brigade playing God
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Googly wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:13 am

Here you learn on the big stage, not in our domestic comps, they're just hamstringing this poor guy. His ability is clear for all to see.

Pointy shoe brigade playing God


Selectors arent big fans of meritocracy it seems

What has shumba done since scotland... Plus he has been crocked for some time.

Strange selections
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Damn, weird Aussie hours to watch the WC ;)
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I hope someone has clocked on to getting us some night training and playing under lights somewhere in Zim. All our qualifying games are the 2nd of the day and will be played at night, so we really need to get familiar with the conditions.
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Changes can be made to the WC squad until 10th October without any approvals from ICC team. So there is a chance Marumani can still be slotted in. Problem is that without any warm up series, you just cannot take a justified decision to drop someone already in the squad.
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I'm confused by all the tweets about Marumani. Are the complaints about him not being in the starting line-up, but he's still in the squad?

I saw a couple of people's starting XI and Evans is not featured either. I'd have him ahead of Ngarava.

Plus I still don't see the benefit of Masakadza. He's not that much better than our part time spinners to justify a spot.

That would surely be where Marumani could slot in?
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Googly wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:46 am

I'm confused by all the tweets about Marumani. Are the complaints about him not being in the starting line-up, but he's still in the squad?

I saw a couple of people's starting XI and Evans is not featured either. I'd have him ahead of Ngarava.

Plus I still don't see the benefit of Masakadza. He's not that much better than our part time spinners to justify a spot.

That would surely be where Marumani could slot in?


Masakadza the non spinner 🙄🙄😂😂

Fair play line and length can be immaculate in 20 20 so he needs to be in squad but maybe not final eleven.

Marumani is a non traveling reserve really and should have been on plane.

I get the impression they are trying to honour the team that got them qualification through the preliminaries for dressing room harmony perhaps. Evans is the only notable face that didnt feature in previous squad.
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They've persevered with practically every half decent batsman over the years, yet Marumani has to wait for a retirement. He's not going to improve unless he plays internationals.

Both Chakabva and Ervine don't come off too often either.
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There's a lit to like about Marumani. He's got an exceptional eye, fast hands and I don't think he's plagued by doubt.

Googly wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:41 am

There's a lit to like about Marumani. He's got an exceptional eye, fast hands and I don't think he's plagued by doubt.


I beg to differ here. If you look at the way he has played international cricket, he is a wild slogger and he connects the ball rarely too reflecting his strike rate of <80. Marumani needs to improve a lot on his batting as well as fielding. If Shumba/Burl had been given similar chances as an opener, they would would made much more impact than Marumani. Marumani had been dominating the domestic cricket as the quality of bowling is very bad.
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BugsBunny wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:19 am


Googly wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:41 am

There's a lit to like about Marumani. He's got an exceptional eye, fast hands and I don't think he's plagued by doubt.


I beg to differ here. If you look at the way he has played international cricket, he is a wild slogger and he connects the ball rarely too reflecting his strike rate of <80. Marumani needs to improve a lot on his batting as well as fielding. If Shumba/Burl had been given similar chances as an opener, they would would made much more impact than Marumani. Marumani had been dominating the domestic cricket as the quality of bowling is very bad.


The bowling may be very bad, yes, but then it's interesting that no one else apart from him and Raza have been 'dominating' that bowling, isn't it?

He may look out of place in international cricket, but he's still only 20 years old and has had limited, inconsistent, opportunities - so that's natural. Wes and Shumba have had stretches where they have looked poor too, but they are persisted with. Why isn't Marumani getting the same opportunities as them, especially when he does better domestically than them?

He's an aggressive player and I doubt he will ever play a Test match for Zim, but in T20's you need someone who can hit; and he can hit better than literally anybody in the entire country. Unfortunately the selectors still think a powerplay of 30-0 is better than 60-2.

Can anybody seriously tell me that Innocent Kaia deserves a place in the T20 squad more than marumani?
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I’m sure the comparison has been made before, but is Marumani the new Cephas Zhuwao? Slogs the local bowlers from pillar to post, but can’t replicate it against international quality bowlers?

Marumani is obviously a lot younger than Zhuwao was when he ‘re-emerged’ in 2017/18 but I’m getting similar vibes. Although he did ‘responsibly well’ in Australia I feel like he had lots of luck & didn’t find the middle of the bat that often.

I do agree with the idea that he won’t improve by destroying local bowlers in a T10 league, if Marumani is going to be a successful international batsman he’ll need to play at that level to find his feet.

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