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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/wess ... se-1418132

Mavuta's comeback lasted one day... Him and Madhevere banned for 4 months, Mavuta replaced by Chirwa in the current Logey game.

Also... Kasuza, who seems to have been playing with new found freedom and fluency recently, has apparently also tested positive, been suspended and received the sheep hook from the current game. Presumably he will now receive a similar formal ban shortly...
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Blimey, 4 month bans?!?! I’m surprised they’ve thrown the book at them so hard. That’s really quite severe.

I think it’s a good thing though. The players need this wake up call.

My question is how ‘random’ is the random testing? There are other higher-profile players who are drug users and probably everyone knows. Have they been tested? Or are they excused?
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Excused. Clearly
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:17 am

Blimey, 4 month bans?!?! I’m surprised they’ve thrown the book at them so hard. That’s really quite severe.

I think it’s a good thing though. The players need this wake up call.

My question is how ‘random’ is the random testing? There are other higher-profile players who are drug users and probably everyone knows. Have they been tested? Or are they excused?


Do you get much more high profile, and part of the in-crowd than Madhevere?
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No they did a second round, but only picked a few guys.
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Googly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:25 am

No they did a second round, but only picked a few guys.


Must be this that has caught out Kasuza. Who unfortunately come out of that looking like he probably isn't especially smart...
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Well if its in your system for 3 months you're a bit jigged if they suddenly decide to test. You're best off claiming your gran died in Gokwe and hide.
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Wasn’t Kasuza the one that apparently had all the articles about him going on a sojourn to work on his game etc

Can’t be too serious an athlete if he’s smoking the devils lettuce
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Serious professional athletes are not using recreational drugs. This drug culture needs to be weeded out, pun intended, as fast as possible.
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Bollocks lol; Zim cricket is the new rock and roll with its strip clubs and frantic innings of note.

This ain’t 1950 and playing King George’s royal select XI on a day off from some big game tour. Get with the times and embrace the new culture. Curb it when the ICC are sniffing around and don’t worry about it at franchise level.

These bans are excessive and shoot holes in the pointy shoes to spite their feet. Wez and Brandawg are match winners and back it up with wild off field performances.

Kasuza 🤷🏻‍♂️ he’s no loss.
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eugene wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm

Serious professional athletes are not using recreational drugs. This drug culture needs to be weeded out, pun intended, as fast as possible.


Serious human beings without major hardships in life aren't using drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. This shows a weakness of personal discipline if nothing else.

And most athletes aren't modern day Lawrence Taylors.
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Kriterion_BD wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:10 am


eugene wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm

Serious professional athletes are not using recreational drugs. This drug culture needs to be weeded out, pun intended, as fast as possible.


Serious human beings without major hardships in life aren't using drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. This shows a weakness of personal discipline if nothing else.

And most athletes aren't modern day Lawrence Taylors.


That might apply to heroin or fentanyl, meth etc

But most people do coke and have a drink to relax or have a good time.

Unless of course you are referring to a serious addiction then yes, completely right.
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eugene wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm

Serious professional athletes are not using recreational drugs. This drug culture needs to be weeded out, pun intended, as fast as possible.


I think drug use among athletes is actually very common, in particularly coke, you have seen top tier athletes like Cameron Munster and Brandon Smith flaunt it on their insta.

I know from friends who have witnessed that coke use amongst pro cricketers and rugby players is extreme.

The reason is pretty clear.

The buzz is top notch and it is 'healthy' and clean in the sense it doesnt affect athletic performance, put on weight (like alcohol) and it is out of your system the next day.

Alot of fitness type influencers will not drink but do coke as an alternative, it is pretty widespread.

i dont do it myself because anything that gets sniffed directly to your brain creeps me out, and I do know one girl that developed a severe life altering addiction. But i know people that see coke as no different than a friday night beer, affordability aside.
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All well and good until the rails don’t hit the same at 3am and the pipe starts calling 😂
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:52 am


eugene wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm

Serious professional athletes are not using recreational drugs. This drug culture needs to be weeded out, pun intended, as fast as possible.


I think drug use among athletes is actually very common, in particularly coke, you have seen top tier athletes like Cameron Munster and Brandon Smith flaunt it on their insta.

I know from friends who have witnessed that coke use amongst pro cricketers and rugby players is extreme.

The reason is pretty clear.

The buzz is top notch and it is 'healthy' and clean in the sense it doesnt affect athletic performance, put on weight (like alcohol) and it is out of your system the next day.

Alot of fitness type influencers will not drink but do coke as an alternative, it is pretty widespread.

i dont do it myself because anything that gets sniffed directly to your brain creeps me out, and I do know one girl that developed a severe life altering addiction. But i know people that see coke as no different than a friday night beer, affordability aside.


Professional athletes in North America and Europe are regularly tested for performance enhancing and recreational drugs.
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eugene wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 5:17 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:52 am


eugene wrote: ↑Thu Jan 25, 2024 10:19 pm

Serious professional athletes are not using recreational drugs. This drug culture needs to be weeded out, pun intended, as fast as possible.


I think drug use among athletes is actually very common, in particularly coke, you have seen top tier athletes like Cameron Munster and Brandon Smith flaunt it on their insta.

I know from friends who have witnessed that coke use amongst pro cricketers and rugby players is extreme.

The reason is pretty clear.

The buzz is top notch and it is 'healthy' and clean in the sense it doesnt affect athletic performance, put on weight (like alcohol) and it is out of your system the next day.

Alot of fitness type influencers will not drink but do coke as an alternative, it is pretty widespread.

i dont do it myself because anything that gets sniffed directly to your brain creeps me out, and I do know one girl that developed a severe life altering addiction. But i know people that see coke as no different than a friday night beer, affordability aside.


Professional athletes in North America and Europe are regularly tested for performance enhancing and recreational drugs.


Of course, but they can get away with it with coke.

Pat cash, in his memoirs, was tested the next morning after a night out on the nosebeers, and came up clean.
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Taylor playing the ongoing Legends league cricket, how is it possible when the ban is not lifted?
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Marshmallow wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:26 am

Taylor playing the ongoing Legends league cricket, how is it possible when the ban is not lifted?


I'm still hoping he would come back to competitive cricket. In few moths the ban should be over.

If he managed to keep himself fit, he could still be helpful for at least a couple of years.

If fit, a cricketer can still be competitive in his early fortys.
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His ban is until July 2025. So still well over a year.

Which ‘legends league’ is this? His ban applies to all ICC or member board cricket activities. Does the legends league bollocks sit outside of that somehow? Must do
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Legends cricket trophy happening in srilanka.

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