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Zimbabwe vs Sri Lanka | 3rd ODI | 11th Jan 2024

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Let’s hope we bowl like we did the last, they will probably bring in welly and swap klong out this game.
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I hope they give Mufudza another go, he wasn’t at his best the other day but still think he deserves another go.

Coaches will be worried about the long tail though and will probably revert to Welly because he can hold a bat.
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CalZim wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:35 am

I hope they give Mufudza another go, he wasn’t at his best the other day but still think he deserves another go.

Coaches will be worried about the long tail though and will probably revert to Welly because he can hold a bat.


And that’s a fair point.

Modern cricket doesn’t afford gentle off spin bowlers who can’t bat (and from what I’ve read, field) anymore.

To be a one trick pony off spinner you have to be king of the craft.

Williams is on par with Mufudza. Maybe even more valuable due to left arm variation.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:38 am


CalZim wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:35 am

I hope they give Mufudza another go, he wasn’t at his best the other day but still think he deserves another go.

Coaches will be worried about the long tail though and will probably revert to Welly because he can hold a bat.


And that’s a fair point.

Modern cricket doesn’t afford gentle off spin bowlers who can’t bat (and from what I’ve read, field) anymore.

To be a one trick pony off spinner you have to be king of the craft.

Williams is on par with Mufudza. Maybe even more valuable due to left arm variation.


How often have you seen Mufudza bowl? Categorically he is a better bowler than Williams. It really is no contest.
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Kaitano in for K-long. Wellington in for Mufudza and Jongwe in for Faraz.

If they had done this in the last game, that tail which can bat could have won the game. These days lower order runs are crucial unless your top 6/7 are as good as India's or Australia's.
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Decent start
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Yup! Good start.
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I’ll jinx him now but I have so much time for Overlord
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I hope the rain break doesn’t kill the momentum. Gumbie was looking good out there. Definitely a different pitch but if these guys bat maybe another 10 overs we will have a chance
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From what we've seen it definitely swings a lot more under lights and batting first is the way to go in Colombo. The rain forecast for today is a lot lesser than the earlier two game days so I'm hoping it stops soon.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:09 pm

Purely what happens when the big three dot make a score.

It used to be the team would smoke associates and do this against test nations now its just the same for both. Until recently at least one other bat like Burl or Wes would have a 1/5 cameo but now its just rAZA, Ervine, Williams or nothing.


You will find that most teams have 3 or 4 reliable run getters then the rest bat around them besides India who are stacked with talent but even they bat around Kohli.

The big 3 are so crucial but also at the same time they aren’t consistent and this affects us badly. How many times have they all come good in the same game for example?
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I knew Hasaranga would destroy these guys. What is also obvious is that they barely prepared or even watched him for a few hours on video. I would be surprised if they did because they all failed
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Shumba averaging 8.1 from his first 10 ODIs :oops:
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secretzimbo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:35 pm

Shumba averaging 8.1 from his first 10 ODIs :oops:


Kaitano averaging a massive 15.7 from his first 11.
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Theyve backed him and won't let it go for at least another 2 years. The only guy they'll want to turn to is Wes, he's had time to reflect his poor choices and deserves another 18 months. Maybe they'll jump ship to Myers when he's back.

Myers is a good player though. He will play at this level...as soon as we get him into the Academy under Brent and Taylor and prepare him for next level. Oh wait...
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TapsC2 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:33 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:09 pm

Purely what happens when the big three dot make a score.

It used to be the team would smoke associates and do this against test nations now its just the same for both. Until recently at least one other bat like Burl or Wes would have a 1/5 cameo but now its just rAZA, Ervine, Williams or nothing.


You will find that most teams have 3 or 4 reliable run getter then the rest bat around them besides India who are stacked with talent but even they bat around Kohli.

The big 3 are so crucial but also at the same time they aren’t consistent and this affects us badly. How many times have they all come good in the same game for example?


Youre right and wrong.

Right in the general jist.

But Australia would have Smith, Labuschagne and Warner averaging 50 for a year, but the other 3/4 are averaging 35 in that time, a little inconsistent and still scoring a few hundreeds.

We have three guys averaging 30ish, then as stated above a bunch drop to around 10/11 average and alot of those opponents have been associates.

Literally we could field Raza, willo, Erv and 8 Australian number 11 batsman and come out way ahead. That is no exxageration.
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8 Ugandan number 11’s would put more on the board.
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Raza needs to be paying that 10k back too.
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Oh I heard a few days ago that our T10 sponsor Mulk, who's also involved in our Cyber City is under the spotlight here.

A few mill's worth of deposits appear to be under question.

Everyone is being assured that the money has been sent to some companies that do this prefabricated modular systems in China or wherever, but there's some nervous investors. Hope this guy doesn't let us down, that T10 was a good thing, despite some players not having received all their money.
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ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:45 pm


TapsC2 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:33 pm


ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:09 pm

Purely what happens when the big three dot make a score.

It used to be the team would smoke associates and do this against test nations now its just the same for both. Until recently at least one other bat like Burl or Wes would have a 1/5 cameo but now its just rAZA, Ervine, Williams or nothing.


You will find that most teams have 3 or 4 reliable run getter then the rest bat around them besides India who are stacked with talent but even they bat around Kohli.

The big 3 are so crucial but also at the same time they aren’t consistent and this affects us badly. How many times have they all come good in the same game for example?


Youre right and wrong.

Right in the general jist.

But Australia would have Smith, Labuschagne and Warner averaging 50 for a year, but the other 3/4 are averaging 35 in that time, a little inconsistent and still scoring a few hundreeds.

We have three guys averaging 30ish, then as stated above a bunch drop to around 10/11 average and alot of those opponents have been associates.

Literally we could field Raza, willo, Erv and 8 Australian number 11 batsman and come out way ahead. That is no exxageration.


Last year in ODIs rounded off, Burl averaged 35, Kaia 23 in a bad year for him, Gumbie 30, Madande 28 whilst the big 3 had Raza at 41, Craig 44 and Williams had the big hundreds which got him to average 90

This actually a very normal range for most teams but it’s just that you don’t get people firing consistently and at the same time. On paper you would say you have something to work with but that’s not the case

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