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2nd T20I | Zimbabwe vs India | July 7, 2024

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It's game day baby! My starting XI is largely the same. Wouldn't mind seeing Antum get a go despite the fact he's a loser.

1. Wesley MADHEVERE

2. Antum NAQVI

3. Brian BENNETT

4. Sikandar RAZA

5. Dion MYERS

6. Johnathan CAMPBELL

7. Clive MADANDE

8. Luke JONGWE

9. Wellington MASAKADZA

10. Richard NGARVA (Chatara if injuries require)

11. Blessing MUZURABANI
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It's good that they've had a massive loss instead of a close one, then it hurts more and takes a lot out of you... For the 3rd game the only way from here is up.

What's the update on Naqvi? His passport is not coming or they are just ignoring him? Both the things are weird actually, because as a cricket board you would select a player only if you are sure about his eligibility (meaning you are sure his passport will be done) otherwise you are wasting a spot. Secondly, if his passport has come, then he needs to play straight away because you don't go out of the way to select a player only to bench him.

So as I said, either way, Antum's scenario is wierd.
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sam_ahm wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 6:18 pm

So as I said, either way, Antum's scenario is wierd.


Very, from start to finish 😂
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The delay is getting ICC clearance apparently. I don’t think they work Thursday to Sunday.

He’s either eligible or he isn’t and they’re trying to shuffle some paperwork to allow him to play. He’s not going from club cricket to giving India a snot squirt unless he’s a freak and

Has a really goood day.

We’ll see some changes next game.
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Ya apparently the paperwork has gone to the ICC but they are waiting for it to come back before he can play.

If it gets sorted then my prediction is they'll add Marumani and Naqvi in for Kaia and Campbell. Ngarava if/when he is fit, but sounds unlikely. They might give Faraz a go in place of Luke.
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A win to be glad, then a massive loss just the following day.

I didn't expect a win, at all. So it is something I'm truly glad.

I expected massive losses, with 100 runs difference.

What I don't care is the witch hunt to the players who (apparently) sank the ship. I care even less for the local Zimbabweans of Indian origin who supported India.

The good news is the event itself: hosting a series with India. The hope is to have several others in the near future. Zimbabwe has desperately to play dozens and dozens of series. (Unfortunately) local leagues are not contests that are presently exposing best Zim players to the level of cricket played internationally.

Just increase the number of international matches (not T20 only, some Tests wouldn't hurt), then you'll harvest competitive players.

Only after a massive international fixture list it would make sense to go seeking for 'culprits'.

P.S. Having said that, I now hope the same "Mr lol" could, at least once, post an articulate reply without quoting tapeball: it shouldn't be too difficult...
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Can’t complain really even by the margin of defeat. It’s India, a country where guys are holding a bat and playing a game who’s name currently escapes me as soon as they can walk basically. There’s a few big names in the side and the rest are solid IPL pros who might be the next superstars. Even their Z team would be world class. We’ve got our win for the series so that’s a result for old salamander.

Nobody’s chasing 235 so young Wessly can have a pass from me today; context of the match he had a solid knock. Bennett seems the real deal. Johnno rightly or wrongly will get the chop if Knackers’ papers are sorted. Jongwe showed why he’s useful, Myers can have a pass for now and Larry 😂 he’s doing okay.

These India games are exposure. We can expect to be thoroughly schooled. The Ireland test and a couple of the Shadystan games down in blues are more realistic wins to be targeting.

These 5th generation Indians are neither here nor there. They’re not a patch on the shady modest hijabis who only seem to come out when Shadystan tour.
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With the current squad, Id go with this:

1 Bennett

2 Wes

3 Raza

4 Dion

5 Naqvi

6 Campbell

7 Madande

8 Jongwe

9 Larry

10 Blessing

11 Ngarava

ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:51 pm

With the current squad, Id go with this:

1 Bennett

2 Wes

3 Raza

4 Dion

5 Naqvi

6 Campbell

7 Madande

8 Jongwe

9 Larry

10 Blessing

11 Ngarava


Larry at 9 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I would have taken 1 victory at the beginning of the series. Granted it was mainly a bowling effort but winning a game without Ervine, Williams, Burl or Ngarava is a step forward. Add Evans and maybe that’s half the team from 12 months ago. We just need to keep trying out combinations and working towards the future. I’m sure Sean and Craig were happy too with the first game.

I want to see Naqvi, Maru and Mavuta in for the next game. They will probably give Faraz a game too.
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For someone who people say T20s isn’t his best format, Bennett has a very good strike rate. Over 140. Absolutely fearless. It’s a shame he never got to open with BT. That would have been a serious combo.
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Yeah at 1-1 the series is good. In fact I wanted 1 win in this series and that objective was achieved in the first match itself. So from here on anything else is a bonus for me against this Indian side.

Jaiswal will be coming in and that is a big boost for India. Zimbabwe need not get overwhelmed though, they just need to stick to the basics and do the right things... Whatever happens after that, happens.
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Pat_Bee wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:52 pm

Can’t complain really even by the margin of defeat. It’s India, a country where guys are holding a bat and playing a game who’s name currently escapes me as soon as they can walk basically. There’s a few big names in the side and the rest are solid IPL pros who might be the next superstars. Even their Z team would be world class. We’ve got our win for the series so that’s a result for old salamander.

Nobody’s chasing 235 so young Wessly can have a pass from me today; context of the match he had a solid knock. Bennett seems the real deal. Johnno rightly or wrongly will get the chop if Knackers’ papers are sorted. Jongwe showed why he’s useful, Myers can have a pass for now and Larry 😂 he’s doing okay.

These India games are exposure. We can expect to be thoroughly schooled. The Ireland test and a couple of the Shadystan games down in blues are more realistic wins to be targeting.

These 5th generation Indians are neither here nor there. They’re not a patch on the shady modest hijabis who only seem to come out when Shadystan tour.


The one guy who actually owns a betting pool was here, last here during the T10.

I asked him if he’d lost money after the first game. He was wandering around in a daze, I think he’d lost his shirt. There were some guys I know who’d put some money on a Zim win at 6:1

You’re already giving Madhevere a pass for a really poor innings. His inability to score in the beginning was the nail in the coffin from the outset for a highly unlikely run chase, but we weren’t even competitive. He then settled into a run a ball 40 and you’re excusing it?

I’d honestly have rather seen him go out playing some shots. He doesn’t look like he’s got a big shot at the moment. Same as Luke, no pressure, played a run a ball innings and will likely get another game despite his really poor bowling.

Low full tosses Tino kept saying. Try waist high long hops.

There are talented guys here that have hit just as many balls as the Indians. They don’t have the monopoly on fanatical practice.

I don’t see why Campbell should be giving way for Knackers. Campbell struggled but everyone did against the spin. He’s at least trying to hit the ball with some venom. I’d really like to see him get a couple of overs. Give Campbell and whoever else is new a run at it. We’ve seen Madhevere, Kaia, Jongwe, masakadza, Shumba etc for years. Give potentially better players the same opportunities. As soon as you swap out a guy after a s**t game you’re breaking his mind before he starts, unless of course that’s the plan?

I was fairly sure Dion would struggle. This is the highest level of cricket and he’s been parachuted in without much T20 experience. I guess they sacrifice chickens and mumble incantations and just hope. But now he’s there give him a long go,
That's spot on Googly
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This is more like what I expected.

We definitely did not bat well in the 1st match, and perhaps India got a bit overzealous in chasing. A bit more composed from them. Don't undersatnd how we struggle so much against spin. It's clearly our weak point and we don't seem to have fixed it.

Still a good series and we have plenty we can build on. India showed how they respond, now it is up to us to show how we can do it.
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Ya Wes can have a pass from me. As explained, I view this series as exposure, the best we’ll get is that single win probably. Wes personally has had a torrid couple of years, got into drugs and served out his ban, to come back and make a run a ball 40 against the world champions is good for him and his confidence. Sure run a ball at the top of the order is slow and he definitely needs to work on that strike rate, it’s runs though and that’s the currency he deals in as a batter. His run a ball 40 made the score more respectable than say Raza’s run a ball 4 did. There were other batters more deserving of some flack yesterday than Wes.

I wouldn’t chop Johnno for Knackers, consistency and a decent run is what any young batter needs. Can see ZC desperate to get Knackers in the side though and thoroughly expect them to blood him down the order.
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it's T20. A run-a-ball-40 is as good as completely useless, you are often better off getting out for a duck. Most teams around the world realise this, but still not Zimbabwe. And we wonder why our T20 batting is so shite.

Yesterday was Wes' 100th international fixture for Zimbabwe. He's a senior player, he doesn't need exposure - he needs results.
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Ya, alright fine; Kaia, Myers, Raza, Johnno and Clive were phenomenal and it was Wes that cost us 😂 chop him.
ZCF OriginalLegend
I was actually thinking maybe Naqvi could replace Myers for the next game, not Campbell. I’m sure we are going to see lots of rotations, changing of batting positions etc. I thought it was too soon to put Myers straight in because he still needs to adjust to playing at this level consistently. Give Campbell another game then we see from there.

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:37 am

it's T20. A run-a-ball-40 is as good as completely useless, you are often better off getting out for a duck. Most teams around the world realise this, but still not Zimbabwe. And we wonder why our T20 batting is so shite.

Yesterday was Wes' 100th international fixture for Zimbabwe. He's a senior player, he doesn't need exposure - he needs results.


Wow I'm actually agreeing with this
Naqvi to replace Kaia

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