Sri Lanka Tour: Squad Announced

Tinah09 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:34 am

zimfan1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:45 pm

I heard that PJ did not make himself available for selection. Playing as an overseas player as qualifies for Ireland in the next few months.

I don't see what he's going to achieve playing for Ireland, that he couldn't in Zim colours? will donning the green make him a better batsmen than the guy who could even make the top20 batsmen in the pro50? On current form he wouldnt even make a Zimbabwe A team! Does this mean he now has a British passport and is eligible to join a county? Is he even good enough to do so, if county cricket really is home to the "bestest" cricketers in the world as we are made to believe. He had a great start to his international career especially in tests, at one time he was an interim-captain for some reason he lost form and never got it back.

Ireland isn’t Britain.

Tinah09 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:34 am

zimfan1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:45 pm

I heard that PJ did not make himself available for selection. Playing as an overseas player as qualifies for Ireland in the next few months.

I don't see what he's going to achieve playing for Ireland, that he couldn't in Zim colours? will donning the green make him a better batsmen than the guy who could even make the top20 batsmen in the pro50? On current form he wouldnt even make a Zimbabwe A team! Does this mean he now has a British passport and is eligible to join a county? Is he even good enough to do so, if county cricket really is home to the "bestest" cricketers in the world as we are made to believe. He had a great start to his international career especially in tests, at one time he was an interim-captain for some reason he lost form and never got it back.

If he becomes eligible for Ireland and holds a passport then he'd be eligible for County. He'd have to make a bag of runs to get close to a County contract because their front line batsmen in nearly all the counties are better than 99% of ours. He's a keeper batsman so has two strings to his bow. As much as that stings like buggery, those are the facts.

Please go and ask Blessing, BT or Dave Houghton to make a comparison between the standards of cricket.

We can most certainly close the gap a lot with better administration, but as it stands we are way behind. As much as you're not letting this go, neither am I.

The day it sinks in that we are way behind and that something needs to be done about it will be a good day for us.

Googly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:25 am

Tinah09 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:34 am

zimfan1 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:45 pm

I heard that PJ did not make himself available for selection. Playing as an overseas player as qualifies for Ireland in the next few months.

I don't see what he's going to achieve playing for Ireland, that he couldn't in Zim colours? will donning the green make him a better batsmen than the guy who could even make the top20 batsmen in the pro50? On current form he wouldnt even make a Zimbabwe A team! Does this mean he now has a British passport and is eligible to join a county? Is he even good enough to do so, if county cricket really is home to the "bestest" cricketers in the world as we are made to believe. He had a great start to his international career especially in tests, at one time he was an interim-captain for some reason he lost form and never got it back.

If he becomes eligible for Ireland and holds a passport then he'd be eligible for County. He'd have to make a bag of runs to get close to a County contract because their front line batsmen in nearly all the counties are better than 99% of ours. He's a keeper batsman so has two strings to his bow. As much as that stings like buggery, those are the facts.

Please go and ask Blessing, BT or Dave Houghton to make a comparison between the standards of cricket.

We can most certainly close the gap a lot with better administration, but as it stands we are way behind. As much as you're not letting this go, neither am I.

The day it sinks in that we are way behind and that something needs to be done about it will be a good day for us.

You’re saying that going to Ireland makes him eligible for county? How?

slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:34 am

Do you have links for the Irish stuff. Thats very very suprising that they have disciplinary issues and nepotism

Seen bits on social media, and this article alludes to it;

https://www.cricketeurope.com/DATABASE/ ... 0098.shtml

secretzimbo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:19 am

slcricfan1 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:34 am

Do you have links for the Irish stuff. Thats very very suprising that they have disciplinary issues and nepotism

Seen bits on social media, and this article alludes to it;

https://www.cricketeurope.com/DATABASE/ ... 0098.shtml

At least the captain and journalists are able to raise such issues there though. They’ve got a better chance of fixing things than we have here, where everyone just muddles along quietly.

ZIMDOGGY wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:41 am

Googly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:25 am

Tinah09 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:34 am

I don't see what he's going to achieve playing for Ireland, that he couldn't in Zim colours? will donning the green make him a better batsmen than the guy who could even make the top20 batsmen in the pro50? On current form he wouldnt even make a Zimbabwe A team! Does this mean he now has a British passport and is eligible to join a county? Is he even good enough to do so, if county cricket really is home to the "bestest" cricketers in the world as we are made to believe. He had a great start to his international career especially in tests, at one time he was an interim-captain for some reason he lost form and never got it back.

If he becomes eligible for Ireland and holds a passport then he'd be eligible for County. He'd have to make a bag of runs to get close to a County contract because their front line batsmen in nearly all the counties are better than 99% of ours. He's a keeper batsman so has two strings to his bow. As much as that stings like buggery, those are the facts.

Please go and ask Blessing, BT or Dave Houghton to make a comparison between the standards of cricket.

We can most certainly close the gap a lot with better administration, but as it stands we are way behind. As much as you're not letting this go, neither am I.

The day it sinks in that we are way behind and that something needs to be done about it will be a good day for us.

You’re saying that going to Ireland makes him eligible for county? How?

A person seeking to play for a Full Member Nation(England in this case) should not have played for any other FMN for the previous four years. Ireland is an Associate Nation, hence Morgan satisfies this rule.

Further because it is still a part of United Kingdom, ECB can pick players from Ireland.

So they're now a full member so that point is not applicable, but anyone with an Irish passport seems to be able to play County as a local. Ed Byrom has an Irish passport and only recently got his English one. He played 3 years as a local on his Irish passport.

Nope, Irish lads can't play in England as local players any more. It's one of their biggest issues currently.

There may have been a grace period after they got their full member status and maybe Brexit complicated it for a while, but now they definitely can't play as locals.

Ok, didn't know that. That's good for Irish domestic cricket I guess. I'm not sure how many were actually playing county, probably about half a dozen.

Northern Irish (UK Passport holders) can play in County up until the point they play for Ireland in an official international. Republic (Irish passport) guys can't play in County ever any more, unless they are an Overseas - hence Stirling in the T20/Hundred.

Good for Irish domestic cricket but very damaging in the short-term for their national team.

Another nation that is going to suffer, for a different reason, is the Netherlands. Their issue is Brexit rather than Full Membership. Their guys can no longer play in the UK as Locals either. (Guys who were already there pre-2020 have registered as 'settled' and can continue....but new players can't go ther).

And as u said their national sides will suffer because some of their top guys had county gigs. I think the Dutch domestic league is quite good though, isn't it?

tej_27 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:01 pm

Googly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:56 pm

Ok, didn't know that. That's good for Irish domestic cricket I guess. I'm not sure how many were actually playing county, probably about half a dozen.

But i think they are still allowed to play in County cricket as local as long as they don't represent ireland ..earlier both was possible ..

I’ll be surprised at that.

Ireland is an EU nation separate to the Uk. Northern Ireland is the obvious exception.

England is no different than NZ, SA, Aus etc now.

I think in realistic terms however…. A lot of people from Ireland also have Brit heritage as their neighbours and historically they were f***ing each other all the time, but that’s no given taht will be the case.

lobsang wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:46 pm

This Sri Lanka team is probably is the weakest team they have had by experience and talent wise, and hopefully the boys will capitalize on their weakness and inexperience and pull off another series win.

there's a lot of talent in this SL side. Nissanka, Asalanka, Mendis (though he's been woefully inconsistent) on the batting front and Chameera and Jayawickrama on the bowling front. The latter is an SLA so you know he's going to get a truckload of wickets.